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Ready for NSA talks without any 'pre-conditions': Sartaj Aziz

Islamabad: Sartaj Aziz, Pakistan NSA,  today made it clear that he is ready to travel to India for talks with his counterpart Ajit Doval.However, he said that  Pakistan will not accept any preconditions put forward 

India TV News Desk India TV News Desk Updated on: August 22, 2015 16:10 IST
ready for nsa talks without any pre conditions sartaj aziz
ready for nsa talks without any pre conditions sartaj aziz

Islamabad: Sartaj Aziz, Pakistan NSA,  today made it clear that he is ready to travel to India for talks with his counterpart Ajit Doval.

However, he said that  Pakistan will not accept any preconditions put forward  by the Indian government.

"On my part I'm still prepared to go to New Delhi for NSA talks without any pre condition," Aziz said.

Aziz made it clear that the talks were not formally cancelled as yet."Cancellation is yet not confirmed from either side, so we are ready to go as per schedule without any pre-condition," he said.

Addressing media persons, he said that no serious dialogue with India is possible unless Kashmir is on the agenda.

"As per Ufa statement, we had to discuss all outstanding issues including Kashmir. 'K' word is very much on the agenda," he said.

"Three point agenda including exploring modalities for the talks for all outstanding issues proposed by Pakistan was in keeping with Ufa understanding," Aziz pointed out.

"I urge Mr.Modi to ponder over what I call most important part of Ufa stmnt that India and Pakistan have collective responsibility to ensure peace," he said.

He accused Modi government of putting conditions for resolving what he called 'outstanding' issues with Pakistan.

"India has been trying to talk to Pakistan on its own terms and conditions after Mr Modi took over the reins of power ," Aziz said.

Aziz also accused India of trying to scuttle  the proposed NSA talks the way it did last time with regard to secy level talks.

"Last year India canceled the talks between foreign Secretaries scheduled for 25th August 2014 in Islamabad.The reason for this regretful second cancellation, if it happens, will be the same," he added.

He also said that he will be carrying three dossiers to India including oner on the role of RAW."Will carry dossiers carrying information of RAWs involvement in Pakistan," Aziz said.

Aziz also said that Pakistan can not accept the advisory of  Indian government that asked him not to meet Hurriyat leaders. He also made it clear that the arrest of Hurriyat leaders was violation of their fundamental rights.

"It was India which introduced new condition with its advice that Pakistan could not meet Hurriyat leaders.We're very disturbed about arresting of Hurriyat leaders as it's a violation of their fundamental rights, he added.

He also accused India of violating ceasefire along Indo-Pak border."We are witnessing continuous ceasefire violations from Indian side.Unfortunate that in past 2 months more than 100 ceasefire violations took place resulting in many casualties on Pak side," Aziz said.

Aziz  was sharply critical of the Indian government for its insistence that he should not meet Kashmiri separatist leaders while in New Delhi and said this was akin to controlling the guest list for a reception being held for him at the Pakistan High Commission tomorrow.

Aziz termed as nothing “further from the truth” the Indian External Affairs Ministry statement that Pakistan was trying to distort the agenda agreed at Ufa and imposing new conditions for the talks.

“The statement of Indian External ministry that Pakistan has imposed new conditions totally ignores the last sentence in the note handed over to the Indian High Commission that Pakistan is ready to hold NSA-level talks without any pre-conditions,” he said while addressing the press conference at the Foreign Office.

“In fact, it is India that has imposed new conditions that Pakistan cannot meet Hurriyat leaders, assuming the right to determine the guest list of for the High Commissioner's reception,” he said.

Responding to a question, Aziz said, “Pakistan wishes to resolve all issues with India on the negotiating table, but no serious talks with India are possible without discussion on the core issue of Kashmir.”

He said Pakistan has prepared three-point agenda which included terrorism, progress on decision made at Ufa and discussion on all outstanding issues that includes Kashmir.  

“Is it conceivable that India would cancel first ministerial meeting on such a flimsy grounds relating to meeting with Hurriyat leaders,” he said.  In provocative remarks, Aziz said he will be carrying three dossiers on India's RAW activities in Pakistan.  “If I don't get opportunity to hand over the dossiers to Indian NSA in New Delhi, I hope to give it to him in New York next month if he comes with PM Narendra Modi” for the UN General Assembly session.

He was asked about reports in the Indian media that Doval will hand over dossiers to Aziz stating that underworld don Dawood Ibrahim, whose presence in Pakistan has been denied by Islamabad, is very much in that country.

Responding to a question, Aziz said, “Pakistan wishes to resolve all issues with India on the negotiating table, but no serious talks with India are possible without discussion on the core issue of Kashmir.”

In provocative remarks, Aziz said he will be carrying three dossiers on India's RAW activities in Pakistan.  “If I don't get opportunity to hand over the dossiers to Indian NSA in New Delhi, I hope to give it to him in New York next month if he comes with PM Narendra Modi” for the UN General Assembly session.

He was asked about reports in the Indian media that Doval will hand over dossiers to Aziz stating that underworld don Dawood Ibrahim, whose presence in Pakistan has been denied by Islamabad, is very much in that country.

Aziz said a major theme being played up in the Indian media was that Pakistan was apprehensive of the dossier Doval would present to him during the NSA talks and was therefore looking for an exit.

“After handing over these dossiers to Mr.Doval, I can then also share them with the UN Secretary General,” he said.  He refused to share the contents of the dossiers about alleged Indian interference in Pakistan but displayed it to the media.

Aziz said that he did not expect any breakthrough during the talks but he minimum agenda was to reduce tension and set a course for future talks.

Aziz said he was disappointed that India had virtually cancelled the first-ever NSA-level talks and it would be second time New Delhi has gone back from a commitment to hold talks with.

“Even more ironic is their alibi that Pakistan was trying to distort the agenda agreed at Ufa and was imposing “new conditions” for the talks.

Accusing India of going against the Ufa summit, he said,“everybody knows what is the most important outstanding issue:

it is Kashmir”.

Aziz said that Modi government wanted to deal with Pakistan “on his terms” by keeping Kashmir on the backburner, which is not acceptable to Pakistan.  

Asked about the detention of Shabir Shah and two other separatist leaders, who are slated to meet Aziz, on their arrival in Delhi, the NSA condemned such action, saying it was violation of their basic rights.

“We are very disturbed about arrest of Hurriyat leaders.It is violation of their fundamental rights,” he said.  Aziz said that India was running diplomacy through media and trying to give impression that Pakistan army was not supportive of talks.

Rejecting such talk, he said that the entire nation was on the same page.  He said the most important part of the Ufa Statement was that India and Pakistan have a “collective responsibility” to ensure peace and promote development and are prepared to discuss “all outstanding issues” and that the “K word is very there in the Ufa statement”.

He said India was making its own interpretations of the Ufa understanding. “Both the countries are bound to hold talks on different issues under the Ufa agreement,” he said.  

“We had agreed to discuss all outstanding issues and Kashmir is definitely part of it. India feels that terrorism is only Pakistan's issue. Pakistan has already shared evidence of Indian involvement in terrorism with the United Nations,” he said.

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